[Done] Questions and an experiment with 2 Breakout key IDs and "Gems" IDs. - Page 1

Feb. 18, 2015, 4:05 p.m. (Last edited by lunboks on Feb. 19, 2015, 12:45 a.m.)

You're on to something here.

Gems #667924416 worked - I received the trade offer.
Gems #176056164 did not work - I got the "backpack cannot satisfy wishlist" error.

The Breakout Key trades both worked, but you set them both as the same ID (#801309). Either that or Dispenser automatically changes that already.

binary100101

Feb. 19, 2015, 1:03 a.m.

Looks like those IDs are merged now.
I don't know this is just a coincidence, but the problem mentioned on the topic is solved. I'll close this thread.

Thank you again for your help.

binary100101

Feb. 19, 2015, 1:10 a.m. (Last edited by binary100101 on Feb. 19, 2015, 1:11 a.m.)

Thanks. Looks like Dispenser automatically merged both IDs to one(801309) just today.
Didn't expected fix comes so fast since that ID problem were left for months.

Joto

Feb. 19, 2015, 9:24 a.m. (Last edited by Joto on Feb. 19, 2015, 9:26 a.m.)

Thanks. Looks like Dispenser automatically merged both IDs to one(801309) just today.
Didn't expected fix comes so fast since that ID problem were left for months.

This problem has caught our attention for a long time, just that there is in fact no perfect solution and until you have brought this up again we have not been bothering to 'fix' it.

FYI, items that exist in different 'IDs' are not interchangeable under our system which matches items based on their defindex/classid. These different versions are probably functionally the same anyway and normal Steam users should have never known that their Gems are schematically different to other people's Gems. However, this has been a problem for our system as we have to match exact IDs for everything. The solution we have tried today is to match these known duplicates together, which is a non-automatic process. We may see different versions of these items again if Valve decides to create more new IDs for old items.

binary100101

Feb. 19, 2015, 1:14 p.m.

Thank you for the information. Now I understood the situation inside Dispenser.tf.
I sincerely apologize if this thread confused your priority to other things about this site.

To explain the reason I made this thread, I knew both that duplicated Breakout key IDs are existed from ago and you also knew it already, from other thread. But didn't know you set it low priority or got technically difficulty, or trying to fix it now. Also didn't know you already noticed or not, one of them are relatively useless because that ID is no longer given to new items, and this time it happened to Steam Gems, have much higher demand than other duplicated.
So I just thought we could examine it by ourselves at least which ID is useless that we should avoid for our trades. I can understand for wishlist you have to keep it for 1% possibilities of old items and removing it is far away from perfect solution, but on actual trades we choose the one which is used commonly among 99% people. So just tried to do it by our own responsibilities than forcing admin to make a tough choice.

Thank you for your reply and sorry again if it bothered you from doing other things.
One thing I didn't expected was there can be so fast response from you. I was thinking this thread is at least useful as a discussing thread about which ID is best to choose, until we find a solution.