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Why was the only VIP in the future。
There is no need to sell a lot of frame as I am VIP.
It says that it can not provide the BOT individual If you do not pay $ 50, but it should do to respond to such self-responsibility of the BOT previously shared it.
I can not consent be altered unilaterally policy suddenly.
If only VIP can add a new gift if absolutely, I much want to return the donation paid until now.
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Donation is donation bro.

I do not want to change suddenly too. But even if I talk with you guys first, the result will be the same. Unless you have practical solution you can provide to this problem.

The reason why I feel that a change is necessary is mainly due to two reasons:
1. After exchanging several emails with Valve, they do not seem to care too much about our situation and will ban our bots in their own way. They will not undo their ban even if it's 'wrong'.
2. More and more people are asking me for help after they have bought revoked gifts here.

So a change immediately is necessary. There is no time for talk.

Because you need to understand Joto did this change to protect everyone. $5, $10 and $25 donators all share the same bots and if someone puts fraudulent purchased gifts and gets revoked by steam later, valve might trade ban the bot so all of us lose the items/gifts or whatever we had in the shared bot.

Do you prefer using a shared bot and risking losing all your items because of someone else fault? Personally i wouldn't want that and note that i've donated $25 so i am also affected by this.

Is there not a way to restrict an account more fairly? I buy games from here all the time and resell for USD. It's an excellent service and I always come here before Steamtrades, reddit, tf2outpost etc just because it's fast, simple, and clean. This site will dwindle in use compared to the others without relatively open access because the other trade sites (steamtrades) will be able to offer far better pricing on games.

Is there not a way that the dispenser could simply restrict trading accounts by the level and age of a users steam account? This is how 90% of traders discriminate between a safe vendor and a fraudulent one anyway, it makes sense to employ this strategy. It would remove 99% of all scammers if you enforced a minimum account age of say 2 years and level 30.

Is there not a way to restrict an account more fairly? I buy games from here all the time and resell for USD. It's an excellent service and I always come here before Steamtrades, reddit, tf2outpost etc just because it's fast, simple, and clean. This site will dwindle in use compared to the others without relatively open access because the other trade sites (steamtrades) will be able to offer far better pricing on games.

Is there not a way that the dispenser could simply restrict trading accounts by the level and age of a users steam account? This is how 90% of traders discriminate between a safe vendor and a fraudulent one anyway, it makes sense to employ this strategy. It would remove 99% of all scammers if you enforced a minimum account age of say 2 years and level 30.


There's no way to determine what a safe account is. Of course it would be less likely that you get scammed by a 10yo account with hundeds of games attached to it, but even those can turn out to be scammers or stolen accounts. Example; not too long ago somebody with an account a couple of years old and 400+ games scammed 10's or 100's of people with BF4 keys that got revoked later. Even traders could unintentionally buy games from the wrong person and get them revoked later on.

Until now also Free VIP also because been able to exhibit, there was a decent price competition thanks to the members of the non-VIP.
Price competition of gift is lost in the end, I feel like the only decline user helicopter, but I will when it comes to only VIP.
What everyone else I think this point?

By the way is not not a person that I want to return the donation until now Become a rule like this, since no longer used?

They just make problem for self, over 80% not using more this site.. So..

They just make problem for self, over 80% not using more this site.. So..


This. Why come here if you can only access the prices of some 200 odd VIP traders? As a customer (and I am a buyer 90% of the time, not a seller) I am strongly encouraged to try other trades sites that will have more range and lower prices due to heavier competition.

I can understand why people are upset but I'm very grateful for this change. Not only does it protect people's items from being locked, it greatly reduces the risk of a blanket-ban across all the bots. It's a shame such a move is necessary but you can blame the scammers for that.

After the new system, VIP donation price must be decrease. Because other donations aren't necessary anymore.

After the new system, VIP donation price must be decrease. Because other donations aren't necessary anymore.


That wouldn't be fair for those who already donated for the VIP status. Especially if they donated in the last few days. Most of the users who use this site to sell games, aren't beginners and can afford $50 for the vip status.

WoW Fak this Life :|

i Just noticed my Game gifts are not available when i search for them !
then figured this ..... this fking revokable gift are really on my nerve .... i can't buy any gift i found to be cheap anymore ... coz it's not safe !
stupid steam should think of a solution :|

i just paid 25$ not a month ago for a Premium ....
can't u give Premium a personal Bot ? like VIP ?

i would get VIP eventually anyway , but not so soon ,

People who did not meet the donation of the VIP, I thing I was useless donation to the development of this site after all.
People not in the VIP Do not you think so?

Is there not a way to restrict an account more fairly? I buy games from here all the time and resell for USD. It's an excellent service and I always come here before Steamtrades, reddit, tf2outpost etc just because it's fast, simple, and clean. This site will dwindle in use compared to the others without relatively open access because the other trade sites (steamtrades) will be able to offer far better pricing on games.

Is there not a way that the dispenser could simply restrict trading accounts by the level and age of a users steam account? This is how 90% of traders discriminate between a safe vendor and a fraudulent one anyway, it makes sense to employ this strategy. It would remove 99% of all scammers if you enforced a minimum account age of say 2 years and level 30.

There are many strategy to employ but most of you miss the fact that Valve decides everything at the end. People ask me to employ some sort of 'account verification'. But that's not the point. Let's say there are always going to be some revoked gifts coming in here anyway, if Valve only deletes them, that's totally fine with us. But now they seem would trade ban an account if the situation is severe. We are very passive because even a 'trusted' seller could intentionally or unintentionally get our bot trade banned without consequences on their end - when they claim that they know nothing.


This. Why come here if you can only access the prices of some 200 odd VIP traders? As a customer (and I am a buyer 90% of the time, not a seller) I am strongly encouraged to try other trades sites that will have more range and lower prices due to heavier competition.

Why do you think some people could sell gift for such a low price, though?

They just make problem for self, over 80% not using more this site.. So..

I am not making problems for myself, I am trying to run into less problems by taking less Steam gifts in custody.

Do you think the $5/$10/$25 donation could be enough as an insurance fund for all of you?